Pressure cookers for mushroom substrate sterilisation - Presto vs All American

Why Your Pressure Cooker Choice Actually Matters

A pressure cooker is the most expensive single piece of equipment you'll buy for grain spawn production, and it's the one you'll use for years. possibly decades. I've run my Presto 23-quart through somewhere north of 400 cycles, and it's still going. The All American 921 at my mate's place has been running since 2018 with zero issues. These things are built to last, which means the choice you make now is the choice you live with for a very long time.

I've used all three of the pressure cookers I'm about to compare, extensively. The Presto 23-quart was my first and is still my daily workhorse. I bought an All American 921 secondhand in 2023 and ran it for six months before selling it (for reasons I'll explain). I've borrowed an All American 941 for a few marathon sterilisation sessions. My opinions here are based on actual use, not spec sheets.

Before we get into the comparison, let me be clear about one thing: you need a pressure cooker that reaches and sustains 15 psi. Electric "pressure cookers" (Instant Pot and similar) typically max out at 11-12 psi. That is not enough for reliable sterilisation of grain spawn. Don't try to make it work. Don't extend the cycle time to compensate. Buy a proper stovetop pressure cooker. I cover the sterilisation science in detail in The Rye Bible: Sterilisation.

The Three Contenders

Presto 23-Quart (01781)

The people's champion. The Presto 23-quart is the pressure cooker that most home cultivators start with, and a surprising number never move beyond. It's affordable, widely available (even in the UK, though you'll pay import markups), and it does the job. The construction is lightweight aluminium with a rubber gasket seal. It uses a weighted jiggler regulator. the classic rocking weight that tells you when pressure is reached.

I bought mine for £85 in 2020. Current UK prices are around £95-120 depending on seller and import costs. In the US, they're around $80-90. For a piece of equipment that you'll use hundreds of times, that's remarkably cheap.

All American 921 (21.5-Quart)

The step up. The All American is cast aluminium. heavier, thicker, and built like it could survive a building collapse. The critical difference is the metal-to-metal seal: no rubber gasket. The lid mates directly with the body via precision-machined surfaces, clamped down with wing nuts. This is the feature that All American devotees won't shut up about, and honestly, it is a genuine advantage (more on this in the maintenance section).

UK pricing is steep. £350-450 due to import costs and limited availability. In the US, around $300-350. It's a serious investment, but the "buy once" argument has merit.

All American 941 (41.5-Quart)

The beast. Nearly double the capacity of the 921, same construction quality, same metal-to-metal seal. This is what you buy when you're running production-scale batches and your time is worth more than the cost difference. It's enormous. you need a large burner (most domestic hobs struggle with it) and a strong back to move it when full.

UK pricing: £500-650. US: $450-500. At this price point, you're making a statement about your commitment to the hobby (or it's no longer a hobby).

Head-to-Head Specifications

Pressure Cooker Specifications

Presto 23qt
Capacity: 23 quarts (21.8 litres)
Material: Stamped aluminium
Weight (empty): 3.6 kg (8 lbs)
Seal type: Rubber gasket
Max PSI: 15 psi
Regulator: Weighted jiggler
Bag capacity (2.5 lb bags): 4-5 bags
UK price (2026): £95-120

All American 921
Capacity: 21.5 quarts (20.3 litres)
Material: Cast aluminium
Weight (empty): 5.9 kg (13 lbs)
Seal type: Metal-to-metal
Max PSI: 15 / 17 / 20 psi (selectable)
Regulator: Weighted gauge
Bag capacity (2.5 lb bags): 4-5 bags
UK price (2026): £350-450

All American 941
Capacity: 41.5 quarts (39.3 litres)
Material: Cast aluminium
Weight (empty): 9.5 kg (21 lbs)
Seal type: Metal-to-metal
Max PSI: 15 / 17 / 20 psi (selectable)
Regulator: Weighted gauge
Bag capacity (2.5 lb bags): 8-10 bags
UK price (2026): £500-650

Capacity Math: What Actually Fits

Manufacturer capacity ratings are useless for grain spawn work. "23 quarts" tells you the volume of the pot, not how many bags of grain you can sterilise in it. The actual capacity depends on bag size, bag orientation, and whether you're stacking.

Here's what I've measured through trial and error:

Presto 23qt. Standard Loading

With 2.5 lb bags (1.1 kg grain), you can fit 4 bags in a single layer on the rack, standing upright. You can squeeze a 5th bag in if you orient it diagonally, but it presses against the sides and can cause the bag to melt at contact points. I don't recommend it. a melted bag means a failed bag and a messy pressure cooker.

That gives you 4 bags per cycle. At 120 minutes sterilisation time plus 30 minutes to reach pressure plus 45 minutes to cool down naturally, each cycle takes roughly 3.25 hours. If you're doing 16 bags per week (a moderate production schedule), that's 4 cycles. easily 13+ hours of pressure cooker time including setup and loading.

All American 921. Standard Loading

Virtually identical to the Presto in practical capacity. The internal dimensions are marginally different (the cast walls are thicker, eating into the internal space), so you get 4 bags per layer. Some people claim 5, but I've never managed it without bags touching the sides.

The 921's real advantage over the Presto isn't capacity. it's thermal mass. The thicker cast aluminium holds temperature more consistently, which means less burner adjustment during the cycle and more even heat distribution. Whether that translates to measurably better sterilisation, I honestly can't say from my data. But the cycle is less fiddly to manage.

All American 941. Standard Loading

This is where things get interesting. The 941 fits 5 bags in a single layer with room to spare, and it's tall enough for a second layer on a rack. That's 8-10 bags per cycle. At the same 3.25-hour cycle time, you've just doubled your throughput. If time is your bottleneck (and it usually is), the 941 pays for itself surprisingly fast.

Cost Per Bag Over Time

Assumptions: 15 bags/week, 3-year lifespan, gas cost £0.08/kWh

Presto 23qt: 4 cycles/week × £0.60 gas = £2.40/week gas + £0.70/week depreciation = £3.10/week (£0.21/bag)
AA 921: 4 cycles/week × £0.65 gas = £2.60/week gas + £2.56/week depreciation = £5.16/week (£0.34/bag)
AA 941: 2 cycles/week × £0.90 gas = £1.80/week gas + £3.72/week depreciation = £5.52/week (£0.37/bag)

The 941 costs more per bag but runs half as many cycles. saving ~6.5 hours/week of active monitoring time.

The Rack Mod That Adds 40% More Bags

This is the single best modification you can make to any pressure cooker, and it works with all three models. The idea is simple: add a second rack inside the cooker so you can stack bags in two layers.

For the Presto 23qt

The stock Presto comes with a flat wire rack that sits on the bottom of the pot. To add a second layer, you need a rack that sits on top of the first layer of bags. I use a stainless steel round cooling rack. the kind made for cakes. cut to fit the internal diameter (about 23 cm for the Presto). You can also use a canning rack or bend heavy-gauge stainless steel wire into a circle with legs.

The key measurements: the rack needs to sit about 15 cm above the bottom rack (on top of the first layer of bags) and the legs need to be stable enough not to tip when the cooker is pressurised. I use 3 cm legs. short enough that the bags sit snugly but tall enough for steam circulation.

With the second rack, the Presto goes from 4 bags to 5-6 bags per cycle. The top layer holds 1-2 bags laid on their sides. That's a 25-50% capacity increase for the cost of a £6 cooling rack and 10 minutes with a hacksaw.

Top Layer Orientation

The bags on the second layer should lay on their sides, not stand upright. Upright bags on the top layer can block the pressure regulator or safety valve. Lay them flat, ensure nothing is touching the lid, and leave at least 2 cm clearance above the top bag. Steam needs to circulate freely.

For the All American 921

Same principle, slightly different execution. All American sells an official stacking rack (part #72) that fits the 921. It's overpriced at around £25-30, but it's made to fit and it's sturdy. The result is 5-6 bags per cycle. same improvement as the Presto mod.

For the All American 941

The 941 already has the height for two layers without modification, but adding a proper mid-level rack (All American part #74, or a DIY equivalent) keeps the layers separated cleanly and improves steam circulation. With the rack, the 941 comfortably holds 10-12 bags per cycle. At that capacity, you can sterilise a full week's production in two cycles.

Safety First

Never stack bags higher than 5 cm below the lid. Never block the pressure regulator, safety valve, or steam vent with bags or racks. A blocked safety valve on a pressure cooker at 15 psi is not a minor problem. it's a potential explosion. Check clearances before every cycle.

Gasket Maintenance (Presto Only)

This is the All American crowd's favourite argument: "no gasket to replace." And they're right that gasket maintenance is a thing. The Presto's rubber gasket is a wear item that degrades over time, especially with heavy use. But let me put this in perspective.

I've replaced my Presto gasket twice in six years and approximately 400 cycles. That's one new gasket every 200 cycles. A replacement gasket costs £12-15. So my total gasket cost over 400 cycles is about £30. or roughly 7.5p per cycle. The All American costs £250+ more upfront to avoid spending 7.5p per cycle on gaskets. You'd need to run about 3,300 cycles before the gasket savings paid for the All American premium. At 4 cycles per week, that's 16 years.

Gasket Replacement Schedule (Presto 23qt)

Inspect: Every 20 cycles. look for cracks, hardening, permanent compression
Clean: Every 10 cycles. warm water, mild soap, dry thoroughly
Oil lightly: Every 30 cycles. thin coat of vegetable oil on the gasket keeps it supple
Replace: When it stops sealing reliably (typically every 150-250 cycles, depending on use intensity)
Cost: £12-15 per replacement gasket
Signs of failure: Steam escaping from the lid rim, unable to reach full pressure, visible cracking or deformation

That said, the All American's metal-to-metal seal is genuinely maintenance-free. You coat the mating surfaces with a thin layer of petroleum jelly once a year, and that's it. There's something to be said for the peace of mind of never wondering whether your seal is going to fail mid-cycle. When you're running 120-minute sterilisation cycles with expensive grain and supplies inside, reliability matters to your mental state as much as your results.

Budget vs Premium: Making the Decision

Here's my honest framework for deciding which pressure cooker to buy:

Buy the Presto 23qt If:

  • You're starting out and not sure how committed you are yet
  • Your budget is under £150
  • You're doing fewer than 20 bags per week
  • You don't mind running multiple cycles per session
  • You're handy enough to do the rack mod (it's dead simple)

Buy the All American 921 If:

  • You've been using a Presto for a year+ and want an upgrade
  • You value build quality and longevity over value for money
  • You're doing 15-25 bags per week
  • You found one secondhand at a reasonable price (they hold value brilliantly. I sold mine for £280 after 6 months of use, having paid £300)
  • You live in the US where the price premium is smaller

Buy the All American 941 If:

  • You're doing 25+ bags per week
  • Time is your primary constraint
  • You have a suitable burner (large-ring gas burner or outdoor propane burner)
  • You're planning to do this for years, not months
  • You have the storage space. the 941 is enormous

Burner Compatibility

The All American 941 has a base diameter of roughly 35 cm. Most standard UK domestic gas hobs have their largest ring at about 20-25 cm. The 941 overhangs significantly, which means uneven heating and much longer times to reach pressure. Many 941 users run them on camping-style propane burners or dedicated large-ring burners. Factor this cost into your decision. a suitable burner adds £40-80.

My Honest Recommendation

Start with the Presto 23qt. Do the rack mod. Use it until you either outgrow it or it dies (it probably won't die). The Presto does everything the All Americans do at a fraction of the cost. The build quality is lower, yes, but "lower build quality" for a Presto still means "outlasts most kitchen appliances you own."

I still use my Presto as my primary steriliser. I sold the All American 921 because, for my volume (15-20 bags per week), it didn't offer enough of a practical advantage over the Presto to justify keeping both. If I ever scale up to 40+ bags per week, I'll buy a 941 and an outdoor burner setup. Until then, the Presto with the rack mod handles everything I throw at it.

The money you save buying a Presto instead of an All American? Spend it on better grain. That'll improve your results more than any pressure cooker upgrade. Start with sourcing quality rye grain, then nail your hydration protocol, and finally master your sterilisation cycle. The equipment is the least important variable in the chain.

Secondhand All Americans

If you want an All American but can't justify the new price, watch eBay, Facebook Marketplace, and mycology forums. All Americans are nearly indestructible, so a used one is almost as good as new. I've seen 921s sell for £180-220 secondhand. still more than a new Presto, but much more palatable. Check the mating surfaces for deep scratches or pitting (which would compromise the seal). Everything else is cosmetic.